I just want to say that I think I am a *Christian*. Those people that you have talked about are not Christians. My best friend and brother is gay. I love pot, hate the war, hate religious-pip-squeak fucktards, was hit on by a priest, don't read the Bible, don't go to mass, don't believe in the apocalypse, or hell (honestly, Earth is hell already...), and I think abortion might be the smartest thing I could possibly think of in situations. Don't let the religious right get you down, there's a few spiritual ones out there that are still worth getting to know and I hope you don't write us (the minority) off for those lousy douchebags. I understand the projection thing because I was kicked out of a mandatory youth group because I questioned the church's beliefs on gays too many times.

And after all that I have one thing to say: It's about time someone put all that together and wrote it. Good for you.

-love the site, read it whenever I get the chance. Keep up the work Bunny.

Bunny Edit: See you fucking rock. And from what I know of the guy, so did Jesus. Why can't religion update itself? Why do people hate in the name of Christ. Its sick. God, its so frustrating.

That shit is tite, Bunny. I like you.

my favorite part is the intolerance -- all other religions/beliefs/ideas that are not defined as "Christian" are evil/bad/wrong. Yet, everyone ELSE is supposed to accept that the Christian way of life if the correct way to live. I can't wait untill Christians get to the afterlife and find out that some other religion was the "correct" one. it will be like losing the universe's biggest game show.

"Oh, sorry, Christianity was not the correct religion. But here's your parting gift -- a lifetime in hell!!!"

*applause*

now don't even get me started on the issue of the bible itself. I still maintain that some whackjob on peyote decided to write the greatest story every told (oh, wait, isn't that what they call the bible? hmmmmm.....), and laughed it up when he saw that people were worshipping his characters.

way to go, Bunny baby. speak your mind.

Don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch girl....The problem with Christianity is that it is practiced by human beings. Human beings, by their nature can be hypocritical, mean, bigoted, etc.... Take anyone on a soap box, Al Gore for example, and you'll find he drives gas guzzling SUV's and takes private jets to fly him to his lectures. But that doesn't mean the message he's preaching about the environment isn't a good one. Sames goes for Christianity.

If you don't own a copy already, run to the record store and buy "Rabbit Fur Coat" by Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins. It would be the perfect soundtrack for this rant.

Amen sister!

And THIS is EXACTLY WHY i read your site!

Yay!

Amen.

Just pointing out a discrepancy here. The whole idea of "separation of church and state" is nowhere to be found in any document pertaining to the governance of the United States of America. It was suggested by a colleague of the Founding Fathers in a letter to Thomas Jefferson. It was never put into practice, but everyone thinks that since it was MENTIONED, it is law. The only reason people believe that there should be separation of church and state is that those in power want a separation. There is no decree that there should be a separation of church and state. 'Course, we could always get it passed as law. Send it to Congress, see if they'll make it official policy.

I am so turned on right now.

Wonderful rant. Its good to know that others are tired of living in our theocracy.

Oh, and "Asspirate", I could be wrong, but I seem to recall in law school a whole line of Supreme Court cases that heavily rely on the "Separation of Church and State" doctrine, which makes it the law of the land. Of course, that is "activeist judge created law" according to the Bible toters, but the law regardless.

I for one find it ironic that We (not me personally, our society) "the Christians" are fighting Them "the Muslims" when they are pretty much the same thing. The only difference between the West and the Muslim world is that we figured out a long time ago that letting religion rule our society doesn't work too well (see witch burnings, persecutions, inquisitions, etc.), although we seem to be drifting back that way.

As for the rapture, I hope its true. Please God, come take them away! Leave the rest of us behind. The world would be better for it.

i just want to say thank you for writing that. i may have to frame it and hang it on my wall.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
-1st Amendment.

Pretty clear that means that politics exists independent of religion, and never the twain shall meet.

Excellent article Bunny. Just this morning I was thinking that if today's "Christians" were hanging around Israel when Jesus was kicking about, they would have been among the first to demand his execution. I'm sure they would have come up with some way to blame the Jews anyway.

I suppose that I'm technically a Christian, cause I believe in Jebus - but to get lumped in with those judgemental assholes, no thanks. Of course, I'm now judging them... fuck it. Well written piece.

Justin,
You may want to check your facts before you say such things. While you are correct that the idea began in a letter to Thomas Jefferson written by the Danbury Baptists, you are entirely incorrect about it not being an actual law. The phrase is not actually used, but this does not mean that what is written is not interpreted as a mandatory separation of Church and State in the US. That pesky first amendment to the United States Constitution has two clauses which are more commonly referred to as the "religion clauses." Separately, they are called the Free Exercise Clause and the Establishment Clause. Also, you might be interested to know that there have been several US Supreme Court cases which uphold the indoctrination which dates back to the time period of the great Thomas Jefferson. Do some research you'll find that there is no discrepancy.

I also wanted to add this: "Erecting the 'wall of separation between church and state'...is absolutely essential in a free society." - Thomas Jefferson

Also, Bunny, I love you. You are hilarious and brilliant. Keep up the good work!

Bunny, I'm a pretty avid reader of your site. I love you, I love your opinions, and I love your openness. That being said, I wouldn't peg you for discriminating against people just because of certain members in a group. I am a Catholic, which could be the worst version of Christian of all. Despite that, I probably agree fully with Jaytee. I am pro-choice, my best friend is gay and I adore her, I hate the war and the fact that my sister is in it, etc etc. I do plenty of immoral things, but I figure that is part of being human and probably the reason that Confession was invented (that and the priests needed a version of a soap opera). I try to take religion in an edited version (kicking out that whole hell thing and eternal damnation of anyone who isn't Christian..)

Don't hate the team just cause of a couple assholes, it would suck to read your site and not feel the Bunny love.

Bunny Edit: I think you're missing the part where I say "most Christians." And "zealots." When I say "I hate Christians" I'm using their way of tossing sloppily formed hate at whole groups of people without actually knowing them, so its supposed to be sort of ironic. I guess I just want Christian righters to feel what its like to be on the other side of their righteous indignation.

Right on sister. How many people have died in the last two thousand years because of religion? Millions? Billions? I'm sure God is really happy and would want that......

Two really great bumper stickers I saw the other day:

If religious groups want to get involved with politics, they should pay taxes.

AND

Jesus, please save me from your followers!

Bunny,
I read your site all the time, but have never commented. This entry deserved one.
I could not agree more wholeheartedly. When I was little, I went to a private Christian school and am not a Christian today because of it (and everything they tried to stuff down my throat). In 3rd grade my teacher made me turn the collar of a halloween turtle neck inside out because the cartoon witch, ghost, and goblin on it were promoting Satanism or some such BS. I'm scarred for life because of that school and the narrowminded, unquestioning, unaccepting ways of the Christian religion. You put everything that makes me angry about it right on the page. Thanks for the post!

Bunny, that rant should be printed in every Newspaper in this Country from 'sea to shining sea' for ALL to see.

I think Jesus was a cool dude. I think he had a pretty simple plan that 'Christians' have twisted to meet their desires thus fucking the whole plan up.

I'm not a Christian by definition. I believe in the Golden Rule (which is pretty much what Jesus was trying to say...I think). I don't go to Church. I only pray when my back is up against the wall or to say thank you for something 'nice'. I party like a Rock Star and cuss like a Sailor but if I'm goin' to Hell I know I won't be alone.

Jesus is just alright with me.

I think that homosexuals should be exempt from any and all taxes related to the Church, or any religious organization, or any organization/institution in any way funded or supported by the Church. The church disowns them, they disown the church.

Frankly, seeing as all religious teaching is based on conjecture and hearsay, with the gaps filled in by presumptuous.. well.. lies, I don't think it should be given any kind of influence or power in a world run on proof and logic. The Vatican and all other religions institutions should be relieved of their money - seeing as it will be useless to them in the Kingdom of God that we've been expecting for a while now - and have it given to charities. That's what they'd do anyway, right?

Effectively, religion is based on hypocrisy. Everyone knows that we have no reason to believe that God is going to provide, or that prayer will destroy malignant tumors. Maybe it's the people's fault who are drawn in by it.

Look at cigarettes. I would argue that, seeing as we are all entitled to choice and freedom, there should be no campaign against smoking. It's an infringement of our human rights to tell us what we can and cannot do - we have a right to kill ourselves, should we choose. I smoke because I want to. There's no reason why I should have to give up because some assholes somewhere don't like the smell. If someone stinks of BO, I can't ask them to leave or threated to call the police because I hate their smell. But anti-smokers take up the same logic.

if you don't like it, asshole, move.

I suppose the same idea could be used when facing Christianity - it's not fair for anyone to deprive people of the right to have a belief. But it is also not fair for any one belief to have precedence over another when it comes to the running of a country. If a Christian organization hates gays, fine by me. But they do not have any right whatsoever to attempt to get a law passed prohibiting homosexuality, or any result thereof. That's just fucking wrong.

So I can smoke and fuck other men and do whatever I want, should I choose. It's not anyone place to deprive me of anything, and that's the entire point of your country, no? Freedom? Were your founders not, in some shape or form, fleeing persecution when they came to your country? Is this not the same fucking thing, turned inward?

If you're read this far, you obviously have no life. I'm petitioning for people who spend all day on the internet to be rounded up and shot? And you can't do anything about it, because that's what my God says I should do. Also, I'm going to go up to incubators and smoke all over them. Then set your children on fire.

Ha.

That was too wonderful to read. Thank you for writing this-- it made my day!

very nice to read someone that shares my views on religion. christianity might be ok if it wasn't for all the goddamn christians.

i have a post about gay marriage here:

http://droogie.typepad.com/guy_in_a_bear_suit/2005/11/index.html

and one about the promise keepers here:

http://droogie.typepad.com/guy_in_a_bear_suit/2005/07/index.html

i think you might like them.

I loved the post and it was wonderfully written for a "rant", but I especially love that your google ads now refer your readers to "Christian Ringtones" and "Humble Orthodoxy".

Bunny;
I have been reading your blog now for over a year and have always appreciated your insight, and the manner in which you convey it. In this instance I am stunned at how like minded we are. I was raised in a very religious family, as a matter fact my Brother is a Lutheran Minister, and the level of hypocrisy that I have witnessed related to religion and doctrine is stunning. I have developed a huge dislike/hatred of religion and hypocrisy because of this, and am a firm believer that religion is the root cause of more evil in this world then any other single movement.There is more damage done due to religion then all good works combined.
The validity of the bible is hugely suspect as far as I am concerned, as it is mostly written in a dead language and the translation of any one word much less the sentiment in any passage is widely debated in scholarly circles, and lets not forget one of the most frightening facts about history, and that it is always written by the winners!!

Keep up the great work Bunny, I am looking forward to your book.

The most ironic thing to me is that 2000 years ago, Jesus came to comfort society's outcast. In those days, they were the lepers, the whores, the tax collectors, the unclean, etc. These people were ignored, ridiculed, or even murdered in the name of God until Jesus came along to try to change the whole system.

If we think about it now, who are our society's outcast? Who do our society judge? I was raised to believe that Christianity is about reaching out to society's outcasts and accepting them - LOVING them.

These batshit crazy "Christians" are all phonies.

Everyone seems so concerned over judging Christians, whether or not they're good people, warning not to judge a group by a few members, blah blah blah. You've all forgotten to ask one of the most important questions about, well, anything really. WHY. Why do so many Christians act like hypocrites? The answer is easy, but most of you won't like it.

The reason is: Almost everything taught in the Bible and by Jesus (Yes, I've read it) is absolutley unfollowable bullshit. Unfollowable at least, by anyone with any semblance of self-confidence, ability to think for themselves or who might have even the slightest bit of an ego. You teach people that their highest ideals should be something that goes against their very nature, then get offended when they don't live up to those ideals. You teach people that they should sacrifice themselves, their earnings, their time to help people that can't or won't help themselves. This somehow makes you "compassionate". You try and teach people to ignore sex, the most primal of human instincts, and then act surprised and offended when they don't. To summarize, I don't hate christians, they're just weak and would have followed whatever else you put in front of them. What I hate are their leaders who use the weak to expand their power and influence. I'm not one of those that says "I don't agree with Christians, but I think the Bible has lots of good ideas." I think it's chock full of bad ideas that have been holding humanity back for thousands of years, teaching people its ok to be weak, ok to leech off of others and that the highest human virtue is to sacrifice yourself so that others can scavenge from your successes. So fuck you whoever came up with this horrible concept. You've kept humanity from becoming great and probably cost more lives than every atheist in world history put together. Stop acting surprised when Christians act "Un-Christian." They're just being real people.

...do gays really pay taxes?

I generally don't comment on blogs but loved your rant.

I always ask "why" to these types of things. I am that kind of person. When I ask why do these people act this way, after I break it down to the most base level I'm left with only this:

The place that Christians, and most religious types for that matter, base their morals is a fear of consequence. They are taught that they have to be good or they go to hell. If you remove that consequence from them, they really don't have a good reason to practice good morals. Therefore, they can construct scenarios that they can focus on (e.g. the evils of Mrs. Nanny Family) to distract them from the wrongs they have committed and justified and subsequently "remove" the consequence.

There are a few of us walking this world who base their morals on something else - we don't WANT to do wrong. I don't practice it for anyone else. I do what is right for myself. I would feel badly wronging someone else and I don't want to feel that way. If you live in reality and don't allow yourself to construct false scenarios, you are forced to take responsibility for the things you do. You quickly learn to follow the right path.

If people would take responsibility for all of their actions, this world would be a much better place regardless of religious dogma.

i love you.

Brilliant Bunny, as always.

This reminds me of the history professor I had during my first term at university, this past September. He was a fundamentalist Christian. I'll just let that sink in for a moment: my history professor was a fundamentalist Christian.

When I got there, he was already embroiled in a legal battle about human rights with the organizer of our Sexual Diversity Centre. At the end of the term, he mysteriously left for medical reasons at the same time he was to be suspended for the aforementioned issue.

He admits no wrong, and denies being either a homophobe or a bigot. He says that he wants to offer an alternative. He's sickening.

Needless to say, we were all immensely relieved when he was replaced by a liberal female professor whose educational background was dominated by women's studies.

His blog is sleepyoldbear [dot] com. (I dare not hotlink. Last time I did that, he spent a brief period haunting my online blog and arguing with myself and my friends. Until I mentioned my intention to join the legal battle with the evidence that he was harassing me.)

I like sex, drugs, and alcohol so I don't like Christians. Especially Christians who like sex, drugs and alcohol.

Usually I'm not motivated to post, but didn't Jesus himself say "What God says be unto God, and what Caesar says be unto Caesar?" It's in the Bible, you fucks. Look it up!

Way to rock ass, Bunny.

Bunny,
You must read Why Christianity Must Change or Die. Its by a bishop and it is such a refreshing read. I don't buy into the whole thing, but it is nice to see someone thinking in the 21st century, not the 1st.

Hallelujah amen.

One more group to add to your rant: Jews. I was raised Jewish and became a bitter anti-Semite for a time as a result of the narrow-mindedness taught to me in Sunday school, the whole concept of one group being "chosen," all the others inferior, etc. etc. I asked too many questions and got kicked out of class.

All the major religions (Christianity, Islam & Judaism) are exactly the same - only the surface details change. The day that people wake up and decide to take responsibility for themselves and embrace all the flawed beauty of humanity is a day I'd like to read about in one fatass Good Book. Until then, I'll worship at the altar of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Girl, I love you for this :-)

I never comment. but this was on point. thank you.
your blog is brilliant and i wish there were more people in the world with your compassionate state of mind

I am a Christian. But for all of the reasons you stated above and more, I find myself ashamed to tell people about my beliefs. In fact, I shy away when anyone asks me if I follow a religion. You are right; the bad apples have ruined the public perception of the whole bunch. And it's not just "a few" bad apples people; it is a TON of bad, loud, ignorant apples who spout off the most horrible, discriminating, judgmental ideas all in the name of Jesus. A lot of Christians live their lives in total blinding fear of actual knowledge. So instead they put their hands over their ears and sing "la la la" in order to live in their box of boundaries that they believe are based on Biblical principles. Most of them have no idea who put the Bible together. Most of them never take into account that it was written thousands of years ago during a very different time, and in the midst of a very different culture than our own. And it would require too much thinking outside of their comfort zone to actually question any of the standard "Christian" ideas on their own, so they would rather play follow the leader and remain completely ignorant about the faith they so fiercely follow. It is a damn shame that the ignorant are usually the loudest and most passionate, because in this case, they have pretty much ruined the image of an entire religious system, and I would even venture to say they have marred everything that Christ stood for.

Fuck. Yes.

There's a verse from a LIVE song, from their first album that I always think of when christians talk to me about jesus.

Heard a lot of talk about this Jesus
A man of love, and a man of strength
But what a man was two thousand years ago
means nothing at all to me today

Jesus was way cool and stuff. Lots of the Jesus tradition is way cool. But what a man was 2000 years ago, means nothing at all to his followers today.

God save us from your fucking fan club.

Christian is the worlds most prolific misnomer. I've read the bible. I had a religious education. When was the last time you met a Christian who had anything the fuck in common with whats in that stupid book?

Christians if they were honest would just call themselves Yawehistic cultists. Cause the only thing they have that joins them to Christ is their fucking jewelery. The yawehistic monotheistic cults are at least honest in their beliefs. Stone the whores, and those who wear nylon. Fire and fucking brimstone. Sacrifice your children on the fucking altar. Feel some fucking guilt about original sin you filthy fucking mothers of our children. Sure, they aren't nice - but you know where you stand with the Yawehists.

Christians? If you read the manual and then go to the meetings? You're going to get the fucking surprise of your life. They sound so nice in print - and they're such ass clowns in practice.

At least the jews have the decency to keep their religious ceremonies out of politics. They don't insist that you have a bar mitzvahs before you can buy beer. Christians won't shut the fuck up with their religious objections to the state recognizing relationships here. Goat-fuckers.

Hey this is the first time I ever read your site, I thought this was kind of cool. You are the polar opposite of Ann Coulter. :-)

hey bunny, i just wanted to say i understand completley where youre coming from. i have an aunt and uncle who are the epitome of this christian craziness. for the past 5 years or so, since i started getting tattooed and pierced, theyve been telling me im going to hell for it. they also think staying in and watching movies with my room mate once in a while means im gay or bordering on it...yikes. but guess who knocked up his girlfriend and is getting married next month? oh thier son, but do they have anything to say about it? nope, just that he's now doing the right thing. pisses me off and i know exactly where youre coming from
xoxo<3

Bunny I love your site and I have read it for a couple of years now, but I have to say that this post seems quite different from your other posts. You are usually a pretty accepting person towards everyone, yet you have an outstanding hatred towards Christians, which is kind of funny to me. Anyways, I wouldn't write all Christians off, in fact, you don't hear a lot about famous Christian theologians and philosophers in the media usually because they aren't the self-righteous idiots grabbing for tv time. Try reading "Can We Be Good Without God?" by Glenn Tinder, or reading Pope John XXIII's "Pacem In Terris", or (something you might be interested in) "Contemplative Prayer" by Thomas Merton, and check out Thomas Keating while you are at it. Take a look at the Metropolitan Community Church, who supports gay marriage, and is oddly enough a Christian church.

Just a brief recommendation, from one non-Christian Jesus fan to another: if you haven't already, go rent/buy Godspell. It's a musical about Jesus as told by hippies, and it's fucking adorable. Their portrayal of him and what he was all about is to die for...very sweet, loving, forgiving, basically everything you never hear about when you're being witnessed to.

It's good proof that for however many shitty Christians there are out there, people are still GETTING what Jesus was all about, and doing Christianity the grassroots way.

I wanna put it in you so much Bunny.

Right on Bunny! Fucking extremists... no matter who they are or what they call themselves that is what it boils down to.

The site link for "abortion cutting crime" actually shows all the errors of that study. I do think abortion is a good thing but I'm still skeptical of that statistic.

The link you posted about abortion and crime rates actually shows all the criticisms of it... which didn't help your argument. I am pro-choice but I am skeptical of that study.

I grew up in a Christian household and my dad was a Christian Zealot. He would invite people over to our house to try and save their souls and he'd always ask people "if you die today, where would you be tomorrow?"

Now that I am grown up and have completely rejected my Christian up bringing, I think back on that question and I happily answer "I don't know, but hopefully not where you are going..."

Keep up the good work Bunny

Amen, sister

As a veteran, I can say that we never shit on homosexuals. The Army values instill in its leaders and soldiers to follow a code of ethics and morality above regular society. Although we have our deviants, since we do get our soldiers from our society, we have great pride in holding ourselves to a higher level of morality and ethics than the civilian population. In our society, homosexuality is still against the social norms, which makes it an immoral act. Until it is deemed a moral act, then we must purge our military of persons who want to act in immoral ways. I am a Christian, however, I do not think in the way that you have described. I believe someone is accountable for their own actions unlike the nuts you describe above. Extremists give every religion a bad name.

Many men and women have died and suffered horrible injuries to allow you the freedom to speak. Our military is the best at what it does because we train harder, are better equipped, and hold our soldiers to higher standards than any other military in this world. Holding higher standards doesn't exactally mean that you are shitting on someone.

Bunny Edit: How are you not exactly like the Christians I described? You just said 1) gays are immoral, and 2) the military must be purged of them. Hetero living is living at a higher standard? You lack a very basic foundation in ethics and empathy, and you use the size and status of your institution to hide from the consequences. You are EXACTLY like the Christians I described.

I've spent more time reading the comments than the original article. The article is thoughtful and allot of the people commenting on it are reading sentences rather than the entire article. It was clearly expressed that "bunny" does not in fact hate any and all christians. In fact more than anything the hypocrasy represented by many "christians" the underlying commentary eludes to the fact that most people that call themselves christians are not christians at all.

I'd like to add to bunny's comment that one of the most infuriating traits of "christians" is their selectivness, they take what they want from the bible from lectures from sermons, they employ it when it's beneficial to them, they use it to condem others and elate themselves. This includes the christians I get along with, they judge the "christian right" and choose to be selective in their interpretation of the bible, and condemn them. Though you are in fact more tolerable and worth spending time with your perpetrating many of the same offenses they are, though I will not put you in the same category.

You people are more rational, you know that your not really a christian at all. Your just afraid to let go of it, it's a hard thing to do to completely turn your back on the things you were taught to believe when you were a child, but your experiences have taught you that it was wrong. I don't know the answer on what comes next, but think about it. The bible does say all non believers will go to hell, it does say allot of awful things, and if your going proclaim it holy and doctrine, while you may be spouting off a disclaimer that you don't agree with that part of it, in the end your endorsing it because it is a whole. I know their are allot of good things in their to, but you don't need a book to tell you how to be good.

Just be good, and be like jesus if you want, the ideals he represents all seem good to me, he can be a role model without being a god. If he ever did exist, I think he would've been content at that.

I hate Crazy Christians.

And will shout it from the rooftops.

Amazing.

P.S. "Jesus Camp"??? I only saw clips and...*I'm scared*

Speechless....you go bunny....

In fact I hate all ways of intolerance... But what a coincidence that the least tolerant people, most castrating and repressing always hold the word of God, whatever name they give it... And, yup, Jesus was the first socialist and agree with me, he had to explain some things with myths for the poorer and uneducated people to understand... Maybe he had lots of fun with his buddies making up miracles and preparing the set up (crossed my mind when I had to read the bible to a kid I took care of)

KID: did it really happen?
ME: well, I don't think so, but agree with me is a spectacular way to have people listen to you...

Ah, religion: fascinating, yet the mask some very acomplexed people use to justify their lack of respect for humankind.
Sorry Bunny, but your country is still filled by a loud 50%, who are dum, easy to manipulate and hungry to believe anything they sell (and all those fancy new religions...)
I am only scared of China. What a market of souls. Such a huge country without beliefs. 3rd WW if 50% convert to catholicism or the rough islamism...

Firstly, Bunny, I don't think anyone could've said it better. You are truly an amazingly insightful individual. I applaud you!

And to Batshit, I must quote the ineffably witty Dorothy Parker, who said, "heterosexuality isn't normal, it's just common."

Batshit, the German military considered Jews to be on par with vermin or chattle; they weren't even considered human beings. Using your "higher standard of morality and ethics" logic, are you saying that it's okay to discriminate simply because something isn't common? Is it okay to discriminate because my skin is darker or lighter than yours? Is it okay to dishonorably discharge me because I attend temple rather than church? Okay, well I didn't have a choice about my skin color or ethnicity, what makes you think I have a choice about who I'm attracted to?

Bigotry is NOT ethical, nor is it moral, it's just fucked up.

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Bunny:

You live in a Christian society that amplifies our tolerance problems better than any other, hopefully shining the light of common sense on some of the bigoted, small-minded, knee-jerk-idiots in America and burning them with shaming heat. Yes, we are a country of religious zealots, and we have managed to divide ourselves into our own religious clans that would wage war against others outside "the" clan if it puts the media spotlight of "goodness" on us, or amplified the reverence our peers possess for us.
We all want to be loved, and the easiest way to be adored is to show great proficiency at hating your group's enemies.... and you BETTER have enemies.

In the end Bunny, you would hate the residents of any other country you lived in if they thought that their beliefs stepped on the rights or freedoms of others. Your personal focus may be on Christians, but you'll find that Christians of the hypocritical kind you reference will have plenty of good company in other religions.

I've never been a strong Christian, but my wife and I had an unusual and wonderful priest who married us. He retired shortly after our wedding, as he was 70+ years old and his health was failing. He lived and protested through the civil rights movements of the 60s, was anti-war, etc....an eastern-bloc immigrated 60's hippie. He recognized that taking away the freedom and right of others was a terrible sin, even if you believed that those rights were against the laws of the Christian God. He acknowledged that God's law does not rule this country, nor should it, acknowledging the religious diversity our country has. Unfortunately, he was a bit of a maverick in the church and was only able to sway the flock, and not the church and clergy itself. I truly wish that all Christians would take his lead and attack the crippling problems of our society such as poverty, racism, faltering education, loss of respect of others, and disintegration of families Instead we concentrate on what are "at best" the social flaws of others.

The story you wrote rang true with the words that our wedding's priest spoke and the beliefs I had adopted long ago....nothing sins like a hypocrite.

Thank Go...er...the Bunny Parents for the Bunny. More please.

I wanna hug you right now. Not in some excited, happy, OMG kind of way. A real hug. I'm a Christian. I haven't been to church in a long time. That doesn't bother me. I just want to love people like Christ did : ( I was "born-again" when I was 10 meaning I prayed and asked God to forgive me of my sins and that I believed Jesus to be his son that he sent to die on the Cross for my sins. I felt something that day. But hey, what does a 10-year old kid know even if he is mature? I really do like you even though I don't know you and wish I could show you what I think a true Christian is. I'm still growing and learning to be a better representation of what Christ would want me to be. Thank you for caring enough to write this. I've wrote too much. I hope you're sleeping deeply. G'night.

Hey bunny, I think your lifestyle could be described as Antinomianism

http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/heresy/antinomianism/

not that there's anthing wrong with that ;)

To Andy: it really shocks me that a person with such high values entered the perfect manipulating business that is the church. Maybe he thought to fight the system from the inside. Was he handling under the motto: If you want to fight your enemies, join them.(?) And just for the fun of critizising the catholic enterprise: the Vatican could save world poverty with its treasures. If I was the Pope I wouldn't be able to sleep with such a bad conscience.

I was raised Catholic my whole life, but pretty much decided it was bullshit when I was 11 or 12. A lot of the people I met in church aren't even really good people, but apparently since they're religious they will be saved. I've seen both sides, and at this point I believe in morals that I have decided, not some organization or group. While I'm not openly opposed to Christians like you, it's nice to see that someone isn't afraid to call out a whole religion. I am also at a service academy, and I have to say there really isn't much discrimination in any regard, so it's not the entire military that's jacked up. The comments of one officer don't represent all of us

Motherfuck, somebody hit the nail right on the head. This post is reason number 398,031 of why Bunny is my hero.
Bunny, will you marry me? Ahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CgvgjfwyPs

That just about says it all.

...do gays really pay taxes?

Posted by: Blizzake at May 2, 2007 01:40 PM

..touche.

"In our society, homosexuality is still against the social norms, which makes it an immoral act. Until it is deemed a moral act, then we must purge our military of persons who want to act in immoral ways."

Yes, but you're merely projecting your own prejudices onto an easily manipulated social idealogy that isn't rigid or definite. You're hiding behind "social norms" that aren't there. What is a Social Norm? is it just what you think is normal, and thus project onto society to make it better suit you?

If Jesus did never marry, and never had sex with any women, ever consider the possibility that he was homosexual?

Besides, morality does NOT fucking come into war. You tell me someone's moral integrity has anything to do with fighting in a structured war. Surely, the "immoral" ones will be BETTER equipped to fight wars, because their lack of morals will allow them to place no value on human life, and thus kill indiscriminately, no?

See if you can't pull yourself back out of that great big homophobic pit you've just dug yourself, dickhead.

(Rock on, Bunny. We all love you.)

From reading all the comments to Bunny's post, one would believe Christianity was the biggest scurge facing the planet. Look people, we live in a pretty big freaking country and we live in the most tolerant society in the world. You are free to live whatever hedonistic lifestyle you want to. But by the same token, Christians are free to think some of those lifestyle choice are wrong and, guess what, even say so....in public. Damn that freedom of speech. But guess what. You don't have to listen to them. You can ignore them. What's the big deal if someone, that you think is a nut, thinks you are going to hell for your choices in life? If you don't think you're going to hell, then no harm no foul, right? If hell is just make believe then Christians telling you that you are going to hell should just roll right off your back. Yes, some Christians are hypocrites. But some aren't. But most everybody is a hypocrite about something in their lives. For example, Bunny is intolerant of Christians because they are intolerant of others. Does intolerance begat intolerance? Anyway, Christians might be wrong. So what? Let them be wrong. The Bible does state that homosexuality is a sin. Maybe the Bible is wrong in that regard. Maybe it's not. Maybe the Bible is the word of God. Maybe it's not. Most of the posters here don't believe it is. Fine. Go and find your own peace of mind. Just don't hate the Christians who think they have already found theirs.

Bunny Edit: But see, Keith. I can't because they run this country and seek to discriminate via the law against anyone not Christian. This isn't freedom of speech, this is fundamentalism, religion mixing with law, and its fucking wrong. Should Christians keep to the values this country was founded upon, freedom of religion and separation of church and state, I would have no problem with them. Christians can say "the bible thinks homosexuality is wrong" okay, but when they seek to pass laws that take away the inalienable rights of gay people because they think this, then they are out of control and need to be taken down a peg.

This is my favorite line:
"Isn't there another group of religious zealots often in the news who adopt the same ideology? I think they're called Al-Qaeda."

YESSS! I have been saying this for years. There's more than a little self loathing on the part of Bush and his ilk that goes into hating and fearing Al Qaeda.

For me, it's not so much the hypocrisy that bums me out. I can't think of a single person who, at some point in time, is full of their own shit. What I hate the most about Christians is that it's not good enough for THEM to believe. They won't rest until EVERYONE believes as they do.

I have a very good male friend who recently started seeing a born again Christian. I haven't met her yet but already I do not like her, and here is why: my friend is a brilliant drummer, singer and songwriter and has been playing with a band for as long as I can remember. This woman, after only a few dates, gave him an ultimatum: either stop playing out in bars (which are LAIRS of SIN), or she can't see him anymore. And my friend, who has been alone for years and is getting "up there" in age, quit his band for her! I tell you, I was enraged.

Ever notice how many of these born-agains usually only turn to Christ after everyone here on Earth can't fucking stand them?

Don't forget the fact that these people thought it was a good idea to SET PEOPLE ON FIRE for their "heresy." Check out the auto-da-fe in Nuremburg, if you want to see what these lunatics are capable of when they get complete power.

I think I love you.

Just remember all, there are Fundamentalists in every religios sect, Jews, Muslims, and Christians. It is improper to judge an entire group by a few faces, and by doing so, you are stereotyping. A practice which you abhore and yet are doing right back to those who do it too you. Be above that, and recognize reality for what it really is

I think that a little meditative moment would help you get over some of this hatred that you're feeling. It's sad to me that you feel that a bad apple has spoiled the whole bunch. Not all Christians are self-righteous, bigoted, dickwads. What you're saying is essentially the same as the backwoods redneck who says that he hates all Muslims b/c they're terrorists.

I do understand your anger and frustration with the behaviour of these people in the name of their religion. It is unfortunate, however, how much this happens with all religions. The essence of the faith is lost in the name of cultural dogma, and social mores. It's sad...but it can be said of Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and the list goes on and on.

Just something to think about.

Bunny Edit: I appreciate the sentiment, but there is no correlation between my anger toward Christians, and an ignorant redneck lashing out at Muslims. That's really quite silly. I live in a country that has fundamentalist Christians at its helm, and it is not ignorance, but experience with this kind of person that makes me angry. That's almost the opposite of what you said.

I was raised in a conservative Christian household and, as the years pass by, have actually come to realize that my parents are two of around six Christians I know who aren't hypocrites. As much as I understand and share in your anger, I am also that overwhelmed by sadness to know that this religious group as a whole is doing far, far more damage than they are good, something I would think that God would be sad about too. Well said, Bunny.

Can I hear a "Yeah!"? How about a "FUCK YEAH!"?

Exactly spot on, bunny.

Christians need to hear this.

Unfortunately, telling them to shut up only encourages them. Ignore them.

Wow. This post rival's your drunken friday-night sex entry, in terms of responses. I suppose the message is religon and deviant sex - will get your blog read!

Ahem, that aside, I spent years learning about theology. Mostly because I never wanted a bible thumper to be able to pull one over on me.

I share your disgust with Christianity, and extend it to most if not all organized religons. I've personally known many dedicated, truely spiritual individuals, but not know many religons that can practice what they preach.

The points you make illustrate the one bit of wisdom I learned while researching Christianity. Tenets of popular Christianity have very little to do with what appears in biblical canon.

If one spends the time to read the bible, and maybe do a little research, you'll find many of the tenets to be tied to secular religons.

E.g., Heaven/Hell, Christmas, Rapture, Trinity, The Flood, etc - all to be false or not found in any part of the bible.

If one does attempt to follow the bibles law's you'll find its mostly common sense. Don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, have humility, improve yourself, don't be a drunk, take care of your family, sex is with your spouse, don't kill, and recognize there's some divinity in life. Very few people have a problem with those tenets - except the sex part.

For all of you who disagree - try this for a test. Does your religon of choice currently or have a history of killing it's members in any way.

Islam - Yes (Islamic slavery anyone?)
Buddism - Yes
Shinto - Yes
Christianity - Yes (too many examples to cite)
Judism - Yes (No as much jew on jew war - but plenty of killing).
etc ...

dear keith,

you are dumb. it isn't the first amendment issue, it's the projection. repealing a woman's right to choose, forcing schoolchildren to pray, giving parochial school voucher-handouts to middle-class WASPs... these are all direct ways that christians have their hands in the government. OUR government. so don't even front like it's bunny being intolerant.

A few posters here have equated Nazi Germany with Christianity, I guess the idea being that Nazi Germany was the embodiment of a Christian state. Assuming for the sake of argument this to be true(which it is not), what was the embodiment of the atheistic state, the Soviet Union? Yep, that place sure was a hotbed of tolerance and respect for individual rights.

For all of you who feel pressured and persecuted by those "Christian zealots", there are just as many christians who feel pressured and persecuted by a world increasingly intolerant of Christianity or of religion in general. It's all a matter of perspective I guess. I'm sorry to say this but Bunny needs to get a grip. Live and let live. Fornicate, eat, drink, and be merry. Nobody is trying to make Bunny become a nun.

Bunny Edit: Except no, Keith, and this is now your second comment here, which tells me you're insecure enough to obsess about this entry. You know Christians are encroaching upon the basic freedoms of United States citizens. I don't go into your churches and tell you you're wrong, which is what you're doing to me without pretense, in my arena, on my turf. You get the difference? And how dare you. I don't need to "get a grip" I need to elect a president who doesn't think like you, piggishly. I need a president who can keep his or her personal faith personal, and not discriminate.

What gives you people the right to do this shit? Your numbers? Fuck off.

this is quite possibly the most beautiful thing i've seen in years. i'm printing a copy.

I totally feel you!

We were having a debate at school over gay marriage (this is in a Studio Art Issues class in New Culture Wars at UC Irvine) and this older Christian lady started saying that she didn't want to make her own decisions about anything, that she just wanted to read the bible and see what God said about it then it would be a no-brainer for her. She said that if we legalized gay marriage then that would be changing the biblical foundation of our nation and that we would "fall," like "babylon and soddom and gomorrah!"

I told her that we as a people needed to place human decency and kindness over any one belief system. She said, "You know what your problem is? You put yourself above the bible, and you know what's going to happen to you!"

Another girl broke in and said, "There are a lot of different people in this nation, with a lot of different beliefs. Our laws need to reflect that." Christian lady said: "There are a lot of beliefs but only one truth!"

I've never been in a physical fight but Lord Almighty did I want to knock that bitch out. Really religious people are the ones that seem (in my experience) most likely to exhibit the hate and intolerance that they profess to believe so strongly in.

I started souring on religion in Sunday school, I was maybe 7 or 8, when the teacher asked when I had been baptised. I said I never had been.

The other kids looked at me like I was a leper, and they actually moved their little chairs away from me. And I'm the one going to hell??

First off, I did not say that I hate homosexuals. I said that it is against our social norms and morals which basically means that it goes against the code of conduct that is expected in the military. If the code is changed, then fine, I will follow it. Until then I have standards to keep.

Secondly, empathy gains you a week military. I have lost soldiers due to being overweight, failing physical fitness tests, etc. Empathy would have allowed me to keep them, thus lowering the standards.

Soren, what you will find is that the majority of soldiers place a high value on life. In fact, they place such a high value on life that they place their lives on the table protecting this country from the vermen of the world who is hell bent on destroying us. It's either take them on in Iraq and Afghanistan or here. Your choice. I would place a hefty bet that you would be cowering on the ground if over here. These soldiers do all of this while at the same time watching left wing "feel goods" try and destroy the basic foundations of this country. It's nice to know that while taking IED's and rounds on a daily basis that there is a Congress hell bent on cutting funding and basically waving the white flag on a fight for survival.

Basically, if you want to keep your rights, which 90% of the rest of the world does not enjoy, let us do our job the way we see fit and sleep soundly at night knowing that you will not wake up the next morning with a pistol pressed against your head due to the words you speak.

Bunny Edit: That must be why Sparta had such a weak military. You're full of shit.

Reading this has made me step back a little from my previous ideas of Christianity and think a little. I've steadily been moving further and further away from organized religion and more into absolute realism and what probably borders on hedonism, and I've found that many ideas of modern Protestant Christanity are a little...overboard.

What I got out of your rant was that you were tired of people telling you what you should and should not do. I agree with you most wholeheartedly, but in a sense, I feel that you're also grouping the idealogy you hate so much into one view and attacking that...which is somewhat hypocritical. Most of what I hate about conservative religion is that it surpresses the beauty, the intelligence, and the strength of the human spirit and binds the believer's will into a little, easily-manipulated package that makes them think that by wasting away hours of their lives by praising an idea to gain social acceptence, regardless of their own and other's personal thoughts and feelings. However, many of the strongly baptist and luthran Christians I know are people who judge upon a person's actions, not by their religion or orientation or skin color, and can deal with the result of their judgement without relying on God or the Bible.

Regardless, I think you're being a little too harsh on all of Christianity. Your logic on their tabboos is very good, though it doesn't really factor in the amount of influence it's had over the last 2000 years, and I applaud your look at the present situation.

The blind, senseless devotion of some has ruined the reputation of many in lots of situations. But please, don't hate a single belief on the actions of a single dillusional family or the outspoken contempt of an individual with an email adress. It's a vicious cycle that will draw in both the hateful and the hated into a self destructive process that will leave none the wiser or stronger.

I actually spent more time reading the comments than your post, but it seems a good number people criticizing your entry seemed to ignore key sentences such as "I realize it is idiotic to look at one fucked up Christian family and then project their image upon every Christian face in America. It is not fair." It clearly states that she is not saying that this is not every Christian, nor does she think this is every Christian. By criticizing her post in saying she is "stereotyping" is very much the same person she is most frustrated with, by standing behind a belief and say you fully believe in that belief yet only choosing whichever makes you feel good about yourself.

And to those posting about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, props to you for putting your life on the line for the "fight for justice". I have a few friends in the army myself and from what they tell me, life is quite hard. But just a thought; isn't "Fighting for Peace" a little ironic?

Thank you for putting my thoughts so eloquently into words. People never cease to amaze and disgust me. It must be wonderful for them to walk through life believing they are truly better than everyone, and "knowing" everything.

You are smart, Bunny. Love your writing.

http://godisimaginary.com/

Bunny,

i've read a lot of your stuff, I found you through tucker, both of you have inspired me to write.

the teachings of christ, are kept in our hearts, minds & soul, the fuck-head christians you incounter in life are another example of god throwing some shit your way. god throws shit your way so you really know what's good in life, you would not know the good if it wasn,t for the bad, really it's fucked up but true.

investigate the other religions, there is some really good soul inspiring uplifting messages in all of it, there is also a ton of bullshit.

the greatest gift god gave us all is intellegence< & our ability to reason. the biggest sin we ever commit is blindly following false prophets.

we all know in our hearts how to behave, & how to live together to build a better world, act from your heart, seek to service others, protect the weak, be inspired by the TRULY strong, & what ever you encounter just remeber, it's all a big fucking crap shoot anyway.

if that doesn't work for you, do what i do & get totally fucked up, (bite the bats head off Ozzie cranked really loud also does it every time)

ROCK ON!

I so agree....mostly.
But if I were starting my rant by making fun of someone else's spelling -
"Your[sic] going to hell. Shame on you."
- I would have checked my own spelling first -
"This was in my inbox recently, a barely legible missive from a Christian who dislikes that I disklike(sic) Christians:"
I enjoy irony, too.

Batshit - it is entirely unreasonable and illogical to claim that "the majority of soldiers place a high value on life", followed by the fact that "they place their lives on the table protecting this country from the vermen [sic] of the world who [sic] is hell bent on destroying us." Placing a high value on life would mean that you value your life TOO MUCH to want to throw it away on a bullshit war started on false pretenses (and of course, on behalf of just-behind-the-scenes special interests - Halliburton, etc.), not the other way around. I am an American, and I don't want a single soldier there in my name.

American agression and egotism (things that essentially come from the South, as far as I can tell. not that every Southerner is like that, just that everyone who's like that is a Southerner.. bash me on this if you want, but FUCK THE SOUTH, YOU GUN-TOTING REACTIONARY BACKWARDS-ASS SLAVERY-APOLOGISTS) are the reason everyone hates us. If we just chilled out and didn't think with our dick/guns for one goddamn minute, maybe we wouldn't be the target of so much hate. When's the last time someone hated on Switzerland? (And I'm not talking about you and your boys kicking back with brewskies and talking shit. I mean people who have real problems with them, the way so many people have real problems with us.)

Or is it just our freedom that they hate?

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Fuckin' A.

Thanks, Bunny--This kind of thing makes me happy with people again.

And to throw in my 2 cents and because I love to argue, Soren said: "Christians might be wrong. So what? Let them be wrong." I love that argument. Short answer: They're dangerous. I can count 20 examples of why Christianity is dangerous to modern culture and just on my left pinky. A lot of money and a lot of power controlled by people who by their very nature are prone to believe in things that they can't prove in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is a bad idea. And as an organized religion, they revel in forcing their beliefs on others.

A church goer knocked on my door a few months ago to get me to join. He mentioned how we're living in a scary time with people, governments, and other churches (not the christian ones) lying to me and my next of kin, and how christianity was there to help guide us all. His next topic unfortunately was creationism, so when he said, "You know, scientists are actually changing their minds and finding out that there's more evidence out there for creationism than evolution..."

I felt obliged to point out, "You know, I'm a biologist and geneticist, and I know for a fact that scientists think nothing of the sort. We've got more evidence for how evolution and natural selection works than we do even for gravity."

So he said, "Oh."

So I said, "Yeah. I'd also like to point out that you came here telling me he could save me from a world made up of false-truths, but that it seems like you and your church are the ones with a policy of disseminating lies, and this kind of hypocrisy at the very heart of your belief system isn't exactly a selling point for Christianity."

"Well..."

"Yeah."

"Um..."

"Uh huh, sure. So you want to stay for tea?"

"No, thanks."

"Okay."

And they do this on a national scale, in our schools, in their churches, in their camps, text books, the internet, everywhere. Combine the fact that they have national government parties in their pocket, believe the earth is a few thousand years old, that homosexuals shouldn't have the same human rights as straight people, that we shouldn't have sex before we marry but we shouldn't use contraception if we do, or that all your hard earned money should go to them and their "universities" and SUVs for a chance of a "miracle" and yeah. I'd say we shouldn't just "let them be wrong."

Yup, I cross out the "god" in the "in god we trust" on my dollar bills. Join the fun!
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Love Jesus, Bunny. Christianity was at its best when he was the one doing it. Don't let the (so-called)Christian fucktards turn you away from the true word of Christ, which was to love, and not judge. These assholes are an embarrassment to Jesus!

I agree fully with everything Bunny said.I hate the way Christians act like it's their way or the highway. As far as I am concerned if being gay is so wrong why were so many young boys molested by catholic priests? I know it doesn't not say in any version of the bible "Go forth men of god and touch little boys."

I love that you mention Westboro ministry. I used to live in Kansas and sometimes used to awkwardly attended their masses (I'm gay and they are much stricter now) but then they protested my high school for putting on a play for The Laramie Project.... One of the protestors recognized me and told me to never return to the Compound, after we threw a rock into the windshield. Too bad there's no anti-christian terrorist groups talk about a great target.

I'm a Christian and totally agree with you. I talk about these problems in my bible study group (where I question pretty much every line I read and ask if this truly is the word of God).

By the way, the Donnie Davies thing (lovegodsway) is a hoax. He's actually a comedian named Joey Oglesby. http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2007/01/davies-exposed-as-actor-joel-oglesby.html

The problem with this whole article is that you are taking a few certain people and stereotyping an entire group. I dont like to call my self a Christian, I feel the term Christian is a group of doctrines and rules created hundreds of years ago that in no way relate to society today. I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am for gay marriage, against abortion, against the war. Kind of a weird one i guess. I feel like Jesus Christ was all about loving other people and that is what its about. If we strived to have the same mindset as he, the world would be as close to a perfect place as it could get. I beleive that whether or not people feel homosexuality is immoral or wrong, or scientifically is not meant to be...its not the governments place to enforce that. Everyone should have the same civil rights. Why do I think abortion is wrong? I believe that every person is born with a purpose. Whether you dont consider a fetus a child or not, it is a human being and if you dont destroy it, it will be a man/woman someday. Who are we to destroy life? What if that child that came from a rape victom or two people who forgot to use a condom is going to cure cancer. Who are we to take away that chance? And to say thatthe more people born like this the more crime there will be is just silly. Its like saying, the more people, the more crime...of course. To hate a group like promise keepers is silly too. Yeah, you have idiots in every organization, or people who screw up, but that doesent mean theres anything wrong with a group dedicated to be faithfull to their wives (whether its because of their belief in God or not). And how can you hate Love Gods Way? Whether they believe in God, or Buddah, or dirt, or whatever...they are an organziation based around loving people and healing others. Thats bad? The majority of humanitarian aid, building houses in poor countries, and bringing food to the world are "God" based organizaitons, missionaries or what not. Should they all stop doing it due to the fact that they are doing in the name of Jesus? No. You should really stop stereotyping millions of people because of a few extremist idiots. If you ever want to continue a talk, I love debating and listening to other peopels views and arguements. I love it when someones points make me realize I am wrong. Im not an asshole. I do have my beliefs. But I am educated and definetly up for a discussion.
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Bunny Edit: Are you educated enough to read and retain the entire paragraph I devoted to explaining the type of "Christian" that sucks? I guess not.

Coming from a devoutly religious upbringing, I can honestly say one thing about your views on Christianity- damn fucking right.
I understand fanaticism, I understand it quite well. I will brook no derogatory comments about Harold Ramis, for instance. But that's not a belief system I force on other individuals. Although, if the truth be told, I absolutely would force it on others because Harold Ramis is a god.
That's beside the point, however. What I can't understand is selectively condemning certain groups or creeds and just as subjectively accepting others. Quackery and utter bullshit, that.
In any event, well written and well said.

I agree with you 100%, but I'd like to throw in my two cents and say that Mrs. Nanny Family had no business calling your roommate's mother. That was kind of lame.

Marry me.

Hi Bunny. Long time fan. I read your site religiously (pun probably intended). I would have commented earlier, but I was out of town. I don't usually check your site unless I'm in the office.

Anyways, I'm a Christian. One of the ones you hate too. I'm Republican. I go to a Roman Catholic Church almost every week. I voted for Bush once. I read Ann Coulter's column every Thursday.

I'm Pro-Life. Incidentally, I worked at a Pro-Life health clinic in College (off-campus). It was a place where women who were pregnant that couldn't afford clothes, housing, food, etc. for their children could get free services. It was run by a Church. And yeah, they taught abstinence and all those other things you don't like. I specifically taught a job training course to the women there, helping them create resumes, apply to jobs, and things like that. So not only do I believe all that 'crazy stuff', I practice it too.

Curiously enough, I also worked for an organization that is trying to get rid of the 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy. Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. So at least we can agree on that.

But yeah, that's me. And while I've never met you in person, I've gathered a lot from your writings in the past, so none of this is any real surprise to me. A lot of people may be coming to this post for the first time from God only knows where, but I've been around long enough to know we differ politically and spiritually.

My first reaction to reading these posts was to be upset and mad at you. While you weren't attacking me personally, you were attacking a lot of the things I believe in strongly in my life. But then again, that's what you were complaining about in the first place. And I know what it's like to 'not fit in' or 'not fit the mold' and be ridiculed because of it. Not for the same reasons you do, but feelings are feelings when it comes down to it.

I feel for you, Bunny. I really do. To be subjected to something you don't believe in, to find it hypocritical, monolithic, and callous. The Church isn't as all-embracing as it should be, you're right. We do pass judgment quickly sometimes. It's a mistake many people make daily. For what it's worth, I'm sorry you've had so many negative experiences with Christianity. I wish it were different, but I understand where you are coming from.

Well, this isn't really going anywhere, so I'll just wrap it up. You are a wonderful writer, Bunny. And my own opinion of you is that you are a good person with good intentions. So regardless of what you think of my beliefs, or what I think of yours, I'll still be reading your site every day, because more often than not, you put a smile on my face.

David

PS You have the two cutest dogs in the entire world.

PPS I get way too worked up over an internet post.

If i remember well the meaning of the verse you quoted Matthew 7:1-5: "Judge not lest ye be judged", has to do more with the intention of the judgement, since other passages show that dertain types of judging is allowed. Problem being that English has just so many words and the translators ran out of synonims. Oh well, shame on everyone who doesn't care to dig a lil bit in what they say they believe.

Second point, the idea of separation of church and state is fundamentally a "christian" idea, since it was portrayed by St. Augustine in his book "City of God".

Third and last point, lest I annoy you with my comment. The idea that Christians are the worst publicity for Christianity has also been extensively covered by several Christian and non-Christian authors all through the ages, my favourites being Unamuno, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Bonhoeffer, Schopenhauer, just to name a few.
I like to consider myself more a follower of Christ, more than a Christian, with my motto as Unamuno said it once : " My religion is to search for the truth in life, and life in the truth"

Awesome.

There is no way one can read this and not feel a raging surge of awesomeness in one's pants.

I consider all Christians to be sub-human creatures. I hate all of them, no exceptions. I've dealt with the 'liberal' ones and the stuffy ones and I've never met an honest one. They are a diseased, maggot infested bunch of things that have no value to society. For the Christians posting here, you have no value to society. They were responsable for all the wars and shit that happened during their time on earth, and I hope that religion dies a cold death. I don't care about you, I despise and abhor you, I consider you filth. Stay out of my neighborhood and stay out of my life, you bunch of child molesters and cannabals. Bunny, I came across your site while surfing and I thank you for it. I hate Muslims and Jews too but they are not as plentiful as Christians.

You really, really, rock.
I have exactly the same views on religion. However, Jesus I believe in. Jesus was a cool dude who wasn't the son of God but was still real. I think a modern day Jesus would be the everyones best friend sorta guy. I also think he wouldn't be a Christian. I'm sorry, I think he wouldn't be an Asshole Christian (read: 90%) but a Good Christian, and we can all get along with those, because they don't shove their beliefs on our atheist throats.
So interesting all our evolutionary 'evidence' is wrong, but a book not even certified to be written by God is pretty damn good to live by. I mean, did God just lean out of the sky with His Almighty Pen and write it? Did someone video record everything he said? If so, who's first in line to punch them in the face?

i love christians. i am one and i do not go to church but i do read the bible and pray on a regular basis. I believe that you can find jesus anywhere and worship him however you want. I also don't believe that you should persecute people for their beliefs. You say you are better than all the christians because we hate but what are you doing to fix it besides saying you are better than us and therefore superior to us. I don't care what christian wronged you and why you have decided to hate an entire way of life because of it i thought you were better than this. I suppose you are just like everyone else in thinking that you are the best and therefore we should follow your lead and beliefs. But you do not realize it yet and still think you are different and living better than us. Good luck with your hypocrisy.

Ok, so I know I'm about 47 shades of late here, but I just got gifted this little gem from a new MySpace friend. Anyhoo, onto the comment. I too, am harboring a deep disdain for Christians. This causes a teensy paradox, me being a Christian myself. I just don't see how anyone of any religion for that matter, would choose to align themselves with a faith that is BLATANT hypocrisy and not make the distiction between themselves and their personal relationship w/(insert name here). I believe in G-d, but I do not believe that the Creator would condone some of the things that are being done in 'His' name. But all in all, this was a really good blog.

I am a 16 year old atheist and I live in Australia, a country filled with Christians.
We are all so young yet everyone in my school already have strong beliefs on God.
Eg. I was sitting in my class called Colourful Cultures. It was a class invented so everyone could learn about each others different religions, nationalities and views.
I used to enjoy and respect other peoples religions and views.
That is until I realised no-one else can respect my atheist views.
As we were all sitting in a circle, one by one discussing our religions, it came to me.
"Atheist."
The whole class stopped and looked at me like I had just said I murdered someone.
No-one could believe it.
You could see them judging me.
One Christian boy even said, "Does you're mother know you're an atheist?"
WHAT A STUPID QUESTION!!
It is like it's a bad, evil thing to be atheist and that my mother should be angry at me!
Then my CHRISTIAN teacher who teaches COLOURFUL CULTURES replies with, "No-one is truly an Atheist, everyone belives in some form of God."
How can someone who teaches a subject about differnt religions exclude Atheism???
I felt as if I didn't exist and from then on, I was judged in that class.
I just had to express how I felt about my stupid Christian school.
I would have to say I am probably the only Atheist in the entire school.

i don't hate all christians just extreamests.But my town's 4th of july this year was compleatly run by them practicly.I think practicly the only thing not run by christian was this indoneasion treasures thing.I am a wican and it just makes me mad that we came to america seeking religious freedom and we wicans get hardly any freedom like this one time when i was 9 this kid asked what church i go to and i told him im not a christion and he threw a really big rock at me and i almost died i was in a concussion for 5 months and we tried to sueand we lost!!

*applause*

Very well said.

I have no problem with Christianity, I just hate Christians. I used to be one of those Fundamentalist nut cases. I tell you, they're INANE. REALLY. But then again, you already know that.

I'm still a theist, but not a Christian. THANK GOD!!!